{"id":16251,"date":"2025-08-01T12:45:17","date_gmt":"2025-08-01T11:45:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.moresophy.com\/?p=16251"},"modified":"2026-04-10T09:51:56","modified_gmt":"2026-04-10T08:51:56","slug":"you-talk-65-beyond-the-hype-heiko-beier-on-25-years-of-ai","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.moresophy.com\/en\/news\/podcast\/you-talk-65-beyond-the-hype-heiko-beier-on-25-years-of-ai","title":{"rendered":"you.talk #65 | Beyond the hype: Heiko Beier on 25 years of AI"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"16251\" class=\"elementor elementor-16251 elementor-16016\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-95d19cb e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"95d19cb\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div 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companies can be successful with strategies instead of quick fixes &#8211; especially in the insurance industry. With its specially developed, patent-pending <a href=\"https:\/\/www.moresophy.com\/en\/daphy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-auto-event-observed=\"true\">AI agent technology <sup>DAPHY\u00ae<\/sup> <\/a>, moresophy offers concrete answers beyond the hype and data chaos. <\/p><p>For over 25 years, moresophy has been helping companies, including those in the insurance industry, to turn data into real added value. Instead of AI gimmicks, the focus here is on productive automation, process intelligence and the confident use of AI. <\/p><p>Curious?<\/p><p>Don&#8217;t miss the full podcast episode with Prof. Dr. Heiko Beier!<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8a8fba4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"8a8fba4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<iframe class=\"my-embed\" data-testid=\"embed-iframe\" style=\"border-radius:12px\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/6PraWj4jS7Rfv3rHnUC9D1?utm_source=generator\" width=\"100%\" height=\"352\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"\" allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d13b6a8 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